Playgans Songs

2005-09-22 [Azuri]: Wonderus song !!!

2005-09-22 [sequeena_rae]: Oh [Rondel] you rock! ^_^

2005-09-22 [hanhepi]: wow. this is funny!! want a verse on sham-mans?

2005-09-22 [Delladreing]: hehe feel free :p two ticks and ill add you to the forum dear [hanhepi]

2005-09-22 [hanhepi]: heck yeah! a new forum!!

2005-09-22 [Delladreing]: yuo, created it this morning

2005-09-23 [Rondel]: Thank you for the compliments, but honestly, most of them should go to [BarleySinger] -- while I helped him write this song, he did the majority of the work: all of the musical composition (sheet music and recording to be made available when we can, but at first it will probably just be an a cappella vocal rendition of a single verse and chorus, done on my headset mike), and the creation of at least half of the verses; true, I had input on many of them, and you can see my sticky fingerprints all over the line "personalities enough to make a quorum"), but I'd hate to have most of the credit come to me when he so richly deserves positive feedback on his music... *smile*

2005-09-23 [Rondel]: ...and besides, if you go to his page to send him a message (which would mean a lot to him, as a musician without an audience is a SAD thing, and it's worse for a composer), you can follow the link to his poetry page and see the lyrics for more of his songs. :D There are also links to some of his music sites, where you can HEAR some of his recorded music; both the instrumental stuff, & a variety of the stuff with lyrics, pagan pieces included...

2005-09-23 [Rondel]: And yes, [hanhepi], I'd welcome a verse on shamans, if you know anyone who'd fit the theme. It is important to us to stick to real people's claims, with VERY few examples. Those in need of a laugh can compare the verses here to Fantasy Crazies I Have Known, and try to match the person to the verse. Odds are, you'll get it right (though some few of the people from the song aren't listed on the wiki, and vice versa). I only *wish* we'd had to make this stuff up... LOL

2005-09-23 [Fireblade K'Chona]: -dies laughing- That's HILARIOUS! I don't know the tune, and I was listening to another tune at the time, but I still almost fell off my chair! Love it!

2005-09-24 [Rondel]: It would be hard for you to know the tune... ...as it's original, and hasn't been recorded yet; there's a faint chance, given the part of the country that you're in, that you might run into someone who knows it. Do you ever make it to Orycon? If you do, I'll have to send you in search of our former coven-sisters who are the only ones I can think of, other than us, who know the song (tune and all). They're also the source of the references for a couple of the verses (in specific, the Tigard Guardian and the Blue God references), & one of them lived with the young woman who was taken into care, eventually, sure that "they" were watching through the electricity...

2005-09-24 [Fireblade K'Chona]: Well, then I guess I wouldn't know the tune anyway. ^_^ And Orycon?...I don't think so. I think it's sad that people can read Mercedes Lackey and go, "Hey! I'm a Guardian! Despite the fact that she just made this up!" Misty wrote a rant about it on her webpage. More later.

2005-09-24 [Rondel]: ...but for the rest of you, I'll try to score the melody into a MIDI file. If all goes well, I may even manage to include the guitar chords. That part is my husband's specialty, not mine, but I'll do my best. I'll try to get that .wav file recorded, too. Anyone interested in the URL of a pagan music collection (with Yule Carols as well as other seasonal songs, some of which are funny)? THEY have music, for learning to sing them by ear, & they include some of [BarleySinger]'s pagan songs (also found in Pagansong Volume 2).

2005-09-24 [Rondel]: Did I ever tell you that I used to babysit Misty Lackey's godchild? (The world of fandom is a small one, & I grew up in it.) She's a nice lady, from what I know of her, but far from the only author to have had her fictional characters latched onto that way. *sigh* It's happened to ALL of the authors named in this song, among many, many others... *sigh* It would be beyond my means to name them all.

2005-09-25 [Fireblade K'Chona]: I feel sorry there are crazies out there who torment these authors like this. And no, you didn't tell me. But as far as I can tell, too, she is nice, but people either think SHE'S a Guardian or whatever, or that THEY are a Guardian. I've only read her Valdemar books and the Joust ones so far. -sigh-

2005-09-25 [sequeena_rae]: *needs to read Misty Lackey's books* I haven't even heard of her *ashamed* :)

2005-09-25 [Fireblade K'Chona]: Oh, don't worry about it. She's not as famous as J.K. Rowling, but she's still a pretty good author, it's just that she hasn't become world-famous.

2005-09-25 [sequeena_rae]: Oh right...J.K.Rowling is the Goddess of the ink

2005-09-25 [Fireblade K'Chona]: Heh.

2005-09-25 [hanhepi]: is misty lacky the same as mercades lackey?

2005-09-25 [hanhepi]: nevermind, i answered my own question. yes she is. i've reead atleast 2 of her books: elvenblood and elvenbane. i rather enjoyed those.

2005-09-25 [Fireblade K'Chona]: Yeah, those were quite good! But people will probably think now that their parents were shifted dragons and they have to get back to their own shape. -sigh-

2005-09-25 [Tolmeni]: My sister and her friends only read the ones with Vanyel in them, because they're self-proclaimed Yaoi Girls. It's very annoying.

2005-09-26 [Rondel]: I've already met one of those, [Fireblade K'Chona], before M. Lackey ever wrote about the topic. LOL He swore up and down that he was "a dragon in another dimension", and "had itches in places where he didn't have places". You'll note that he's in the song. His "mystic bullshit" (our standard term for such behaviour) proved useful at one point, though -- through rather convoluted logic, I first convinced him that the goddess he referred to as "Grandma" was the one that I referred to as "Mom", making me (metaphysically speaking) his aunt... ...and then I convinced him that a tree in my yard was sacred to the goddess (easy enough, it was a hawthorne), then put his cigarette out on it, &

2005-09-26 [Rondel]: told him that he'd anger the goddess if he ever smoked again. Got him to stop, cold turkey, for a full week...but then he went back to them, showing that it wasn't physical addiction (that's broken in that time) but behavioural. Still, I thought it was a pretty good attempt at turning a person's personal mystic bullshit to good ends. *wry laugh* I was also much younger then, & I don't think I'd risk feeding someone's delusion that way, these days. But, it was an interesting experiment, & I learned some things from it. I *do* think that related techniques could be used to create a successful ritual to help pagans quit smoking, for instance, "inner workings" being some of the easiest.

2005-09-26 [Rondel]: As for "Misty" vs. "Mercedes", I tend not to use authors' nicknames unless I've had personal connection/interaction with them which would justify it (in this case, the connection being through my provision of regular care to her god-child (and said god-child's sibling) over an extended period); even now, I hesitate to use the more intimate term in a public forum, but I think I was caught off-guard because I was talking to someone who'd already referred to her that way. I've read most of her early works (the Valdemar books, Vanyel series included, Diana Tregarde books, etc.), but she's one of many authors I've had to quit reading due to my inability to buy/tolerate new-to-me books.

2005-09-26 [Rondel]: Still, I recommend her books; they're quite good, the Diana Tregarde series being unusually so, for their genre. The early Valdemar books were, according to those who knew her most intimately, "Mary Sue"s, in that they were clearly about an altered version of herself and her life... ...but to a reader who didn't know her, they read quite well, regardless. I must admit, some of these issues have affected my own temptation to write fiction; on the one hand, I believe in "writing what you know", yet I don't want to do a classic "Mary Sue" -- and, more importantly, I don't want to write anything that can be fixated upon in an unhealthy way. NOTHING can stop people fixating on an author's

2005-09-26 [Rondel]: work, so far as I can tell... ...but some writing creates greater risks than others. For instance, one could probably power a generator off of Heinlein's spinning in his grave, due to the number of people who justify their polyamorous lifestyle based on his novel "Stranger in a Strange Land", given that his own personal beliefs were quite conservative. Tolkein's heirs must wince every time another knock-off novel ("Sword of Shannara", for instance) is written, but even that must not be as bad as watching people use your books to justify their personal descent into delusional insanity. I've a number of pieces in process which I can't not write, but may not share, for these very reasons.

2005-09-26 [Fireblade K'Chona]: I refer to her as Misty because it's shorter. That's it. Yes, some of her early stuff is Sueish, but it gets a lot better-and it's not fanfic, which is a point in its favor! And I wince every time another knock-off of LOTR emerges too, and I tend not to read them. If you've read Eldest (sequel to Eragon) well...anyway, yeah, it's bad to watch people go insane. But I'm writing anyway. I've set it in a different world, with invented gods, but someone's probably going to try and worship Morophel or something. -sigh- Well, he's one evil SOB, (and he's my character, so I can call him that) so hopefully that will deter people. I'm rambling, yes I am!

2005-09-27 [Rondel]: Ever seen how many people obsess on Elric? Or Thomas Covenant? Painting your main character as an evil SOB is no guarantee that people won't obsess on them.

2005-09-27 [Fireblade K'Chona]: Or Darth Vader, for that matter. Damn. -sigh-

2005-10-01 [BarleySinger]: There is a Wiki here on Elftown for people who really like Malfoil in the Harry Potter series.....and I did notice at least one major person in TV who obviously noticed that way too many of his fans were SCARY....and that was the creater of Buffy/Angel. He did a thing in the Buffy series with "the Triad"....a group of "fan boys" gone bad, and toward the end of the series he had the "Buffy Charater" say outright to the only surviving member of "the Triad" (who had killed another one of the Triad) to "stop it", that "he had killed his friend" and that he was always acting like "life was just a story"...and that it wasn't. It was real an he really did kill his best friend.

2005-10-01 [BarleySinger]: By the way, I'm glad you like the song. I wish I had time & health to set up the recording studio to record you folks a rough mp3 so that you can at least hear the tune and the style. I have that equipment only due to the massive and amazing efforts of my wife [Rondel] who worked from home while disabled and in horrific pain, doing top notch web design work. She bought me that equipment. At times she typed so much that she was unable to move her arms well enough to feed herself...all in order to pay for that equipment...all because she loves me and believes in my musical abilities. There isn't an mp3 of mine online that is not there because of her, and a lot of music never would have

2005-10-01 [BarleySinger]: written at all without the software, the mac, and the other stuff. I owe her a debt of gratitude that I can never repay...but then that's what real love is about isn't it. The dying grain god doesn't ask for thanks it is its nature (neither did she...an neither do I for what I do in our love and our family). Just a lyric snippit of mine for you to end this message on - "Hang your head down heavy like the barley grain, standing full and fated for to die. See the mourners passing for the barley grain. See the sun die slowly in the sky." If you like I'll give you the rest of the words sometime. I like that song and really want to record it.

2005-10-02 [Fireblade K'Chona]: Ooh, I like that one too! I hope you get to record it sometime! There's a new music production studio at my school, but as you're in Australia, I can't bring you in. -sigh-

2005-12-09 [Falx]: ROFLMAO!

2005-12-09 [Delladreing]: knew you'd get here eventually

2005-12-09 [Falx]: Perhaps I can write up a verse about the guy from my college who swore he was "Lord Cyclonis, Master of the Astral Plane" or about his friend who was a wolf totem and claimed to be the 5th rider of the Apocolypse.

2005-12-09 [Falx]: Aww... Dela... You know I can't stay away from this sort of thing for too long. ^_^

2005-12-09 [Delladreing]: I know, and by all means feel free to submit, I'll need to add you to the forumy though

2005-12-09 [Falx]: Okie Doke

2006-01-09 [windowframe]: *haunts teh Dela*

2006-01-09 [Delladreing]: <.<'  >.>'

2006-01-10 [Fireblade K'Chona]: There's a forum?!

2006-01-10 [Delladreing]: yes :) keeps my pages safe from hackers and lets members add things

2006-01-11 [Fireblade K'Chona]: Ah, I see.

2006-01-11 [Delladreing]: want in?

2006-01-11 [Fireblade K'Chona]: Sure!

2006-01-11 [Delladreing]: righto

2006-01-30 [Sobre is the shit]: holy shit! that rocked!

2006-01-30 [Delladreing]: :)

2006-12-14 [Rondel]: *shameless promotion mode*

Yule Carols -- at http://willow.creative-interweb.com/library/songbook/carols or http://members.tripod.com/~Willow_Firesong/YulCarls or http://willow.creative-interweb.com/old_site/YulCarls

Enjoy -- even if there is one terribly obscene one in the collection. There's even a free MP3 of a fully original Winter Solstice song, available at that site. Most are pagan words to traditional carol tunes, though -- some serious, some funny, some vaguely ridiculous (like Dancing in a Wiccan Wonderland). Still, worth a browse, especially at this time of year. :) No?